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Denis Nazin

Invisible to B

This post includes: a level with several "star pass" demos, and a demo with "star pass" explanations - discovered by @Labyrenight

Invisible to B
Denis Nazin, Oct 24, 2021
Helena, delator77, Blue Tower and 3 others like this.
    • Denis Nazin
      At the level Used: hybrid "star pass" and autopilot. Separately, the autopilot and other tricks at the level are not needed, they are not applied!

      This post includes: a level with several "star pass" demos, and a demo with "star pass" explanations - discovered by @Labyrenight!
      I want to express my deep gratitude to @Labyrenight - for a very interesting discovery and its research together with @MekaSage and me)
      Here is a link to a chat with all the research and demo cards:
      http://mekoramaforum.com/threads/star-pass.1402/.
      Links to levels including "star pass" which are already published:
      http://mekoramaforum.com/media/star-pass-demo.24453/
      http://mekoramaforum.com/media/seeing-stars.24484/
      http://mekoramaforum.com/media/many-things.24564/
    • Denis Nazin
      Explanation and principle of action !!

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      B does not see the block inside which the star phantom is located (if this block can potentially move).
      If under the invisible block there is a block on which B can step - B goes forward (if he can step over the obstacle).
      Star pass affects everything that can move, real or potentially. But!!! Does not work on fixed blocks!
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      Sorry to publish these explanations late. Previously, I failed to do this.
    • Meko Guy
      @Denis Nazin - Clever final move but this is beyond me. I got the star at the end with the auto slider on my own and that was about it. This trick isn't intuitive to me at all so I'll just skip it from here on. Thanks for the demo so now I know.
    • Denis Nazin
      @Meko Guy
      Thank you very much for your comment. Yes, absolutely right, this bug is strongly contrary to the classical mekorama geometry. Therefore, it is difficult to understand him without explanation. That is why I have long wanted to make this post with explanations and demonstration - so that everyone can understand it. I am glad that the comments on this post helped you understand. So I didn't try in vain.
    • Meko Guy
      @Denis Nazin - Thanks for the explanation with your demo but I didn't study your words, I just skimmed them and therefore failed to complete this level. This trick can have many uses based on this demo but this trick is like ToA was to some players. They would rather just skip the level than attempt it. The reason that I think I'm not understanding it is because I play what I see. You've probably read my comments to players about hidden, same problem, I can't play what I can't see. You mentioned to me in one of my recent levels that it was just too much to take in - same here. I must remember there was a star there and use it later. It's easier for you to play and complete a level that you built as you put it all together and practiced it to ensure it all worked but me, I'm just tapping here and there with hopes I tapped in the right place. Not really fun if I'm doing that.
    • Rating:
      5/5,
      Labyrenight
      Thank you for keeping your promise, this makes me happy.

      The position of the star effect (both stop and pass) can be easily remembered, just like logic levels that don't place red bricks as markers.

      I think if the star is attached to the ball it will be more fun like your demo on the thread.
    • Rating:
      5/5,
      MekaSage
      I like the demo! I couldn't figure out the last move without the video. I assumed it would require the burr effect, which lead me down the wrong path.
    • ridgerunner
      Confusing and amusing.
    • Denis Nazin
    • mastersifu
      I took me some time to realise the trick to get B across to the final section. I found it a bit hard to align the free motor for me and I always forget where is the correct place to tap which confused myself.
    • Denis Nazin
      @mastersifu
      Thank you very much for your comment! For the motor to move smoothly, it must be between the two rails of the central slider.
      As for the correct place, I'm sorry, I didn't understand. Apparently my translation is wrong.
    • Rating:
      5/5,
      delator77
    • Denis Nazin
      @delator77
      Thank you friend, thank you very much
    • The B::x
      Ur levels always have something to teach me
    • Rating:
      5/5,
      mastersifu
      Just realise the rating is gone. @Denis Nazin The correct place to tap - when the star between the slider hits the motor, then I can tap on the motor or tap in front of the motor. This will push the motor forward. But when I align the star to the metal pillar at the end of the track, I must tap in front of the block not on the block. I always forget that fixed block won't work which had me confused for a while.
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